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I was asked by a brother whether or not it is true that Shi’ite men are allowed to derive sexual pleasure from infant children, and even new-born babies, by fondling them or rubbing their genitals on them. I told him that I would post about this issue soon, so this post of mine is about that topic.Yes, this is indeed permissible for Shi’ites. But I warn my brother from the Ahlus Sunnah to not rush to condemn the Shi’ites for this moral depravity, since I’ve looked in our own texts and I could not find any rules in the works of jurisprudence of all the madhabs that forbid such behavior. And since deriving sexual pleasure from your wives or female slaves is generally permissible in Islam, and only sexual intercourse is prohibited before the age of maturity (typically at 9 years), it appears that the act of lustful fondling and thighing infant wives may be permissible for us as well.
So if we condemn the Shi’ites for these hideously immoral laws, and it turns out that they are permissible in our faith as well, then obviously they cannot be immoral since our religion allows them, so we will have to walk back our previous comments to the Shi’ites, which might be a little embarrassing for us. So take heed!
Anyway, coming to the actual issue, here are the rulings of their scholars (the “Ayatullahs”) about this topic.
The most prominent Shi’ite scholar in the world today is Ayatullah Sistani, who resides in Najaf. This is what he has to say about this issue in his book Minhaj as-Saliheen (in the Chapter of Nikah):
مسألة 8 : لا يجوز وطء الزوجة قبل إكمال تسع سنين، دواماً كان النكاح أو منقطعاً، واما سائر الاستمتاعات كاللمس بشهوة والتقبيل والضم والتفخيذ فلا بأس بها،
http://www.sistani.org/arabic/book/16/858/
Issue #8: It is not permissible to have sexual intercourse (with one’s wife) before she reaches 9 years in age, be it in Nikaah (permanent marriage) or Mut’a (temporary marriage). As for all other pleasures such as lustful touch, kissing, embracing, and thighing (i.e., rubbing penis between the thighs), there is no problem in it. [That is, there is no problem in deriving such pleasures from one’s wife before she reaches the age of 9 years.]
Another extremely important Shi’ite leader from the 20th Century was Ayatullah Ruhollah Khomeini. You might be familiar with him due to his prominence in the late 20th century, especially due to him being the founder of the current Islamic Republic of Islam. He also repeats the same ruling as above in his book Tahreer al-Waseelah:
مسألة 12 : لا يجوز وطء الزوجة قبل إكمال تسع سنين ، دواما كان النكاح أو منقطعا ، و أما سائر الاستمتاعات كاللمس بشهوة و الضم و التفخيذ فلا بأس بها حتى فى الرضيعة
Tahreer al-Waseelah, volume 2, page 343
Issue #12: It is not permissible to have sexual intercourse (with one’s wife) before she reaches 9 years in age, be it in Nikaah (permanent marriage) or Mut’a (temporary marriage). As for all other pleasures such as lustful touch, embracing, and thighing (i.e., rubbing penis between the thighs), there is no problem in it, even if she is a suckling baby.
Some other prominent Shi’ite scholars who have given the same ruling regarding deriving sexual pleasure from babies are the following:
- Ayatullah Khoei, the teacher of Ayatullah Sistani mentioned above, and the head of the Hawzah in Najaf till his death, in his book: Al-Mabani fi Sharh Urwat al-Wuthqa
- Ayatullah Muhammad Kazim Tabtaba’i Yazdi in his seminal work, al-Urwat al-Wuthqa, volume 5, page 502.
So hopefully that answers the question. Again I must warn the brothers to be careful in this regard, since this immoral law might be permissible in our faith as well, which would make it completely, 100% moral. So do not rush to judgments too quickly. And, indeed, Allaah is the best of Helper and the best of Guides.
what the fuck
Satanic. There can be no other explanation.
WHAT????? NOOOOOOOO! It’s WRONG!!!
Just call the Shi’ite men: shitty men or shit men… then we know who they really are. As to the Ahatullas, they should be lined up in front of a firing squad and eliminated so you are no longer confused about morality in the 21st Century! Stop living in the 7th Century you ignorant “goat fuckers!”
Further, you must live by the laws of the land you live in; no excuse for your ignorance in other parts of the world. So, keep your pecker in your pants or lose it! ‘Nuff said.
This ends all rational discussion. Does this mean these assholes can do anything if it is permitted be their effed up ideology…..just following the rules??? Nice easy little rationalization for these mysogenistic bastards. It’s all about mister winky. Some religion!
How perverse is this……….
You sick fucks!!
Having sex with children is called pedophilia in Western countries and is against the law,for a grown man to do so it is immoral and depraved, the rights of the child is not given any consideration ,she is a nonentity always owned by a man in the ideology of islam ,those who for their own agenda accept this ,close their eyes to the great injustice done to these little girls have lost all their integrity ,morality and become like them.so shameful.
But Islam is not about the morally corrupt West. It is not pedophilia, it is holy sunna.
Morally corrupt West??? The “morally corrupt west” makes sexually abusing infants and children and child brides ILLEGAL! There is NOTHING holy about sexually abusing children! You know in your heart this is evil, yet you choose to do it anyway. REPENT for this evil and turn to the real God. That’s the only way you will find forgiveness. Any religion that condones touching children sexually is EVIL!
This is what happens when you get your morals from an old book!
No, it is not satanic, nor wrong. Mohammed (pbuh) also thighted Aisha before the intercourse finally happened at the age of 9. It is Sunna!
If it is, “Sunna” then that should be enough for you to realize your religion is FALSE and EVIL. Any religion that says “thighing” and sexually molesting children is OK is not a religion that anyone should follow. Turn to the one true God and find forgiveness through Jesus Christ, the one true Lord and Savior, and REPENT.
These people are very, very sick!! May Jesus protect our children from these monsters!
You are as sick as they are!! Our Bible states “leave evil men to God”. God will deal with your sick beliefs.
You sick bastard, lay down & die.
Hard to tell at first glance. but I guess this is a site for highlighting insane muslim practices?
Anyway, Islamic rules are things Muhammed invented as he went along. He wanted to have sex with a 9 year old child, suddenly Allah “appeared” and said that was ok.
Islam is the body ruling the mind. When the mind leads the body, the mouth precedes in front of the anus. When the body leads the mind, the anus swallows everything in reverse.
Well put Richard Silk! That pretty much sums it up in very few words!
perverted assholes the lot of them!
I don’t know of any REAL, grown men who find anything remotely sexual about looking at a child. REAL men find beauty in grown women! Anything else is sick pedophilia condoned by a false prophet wannabe. Muhammed was no religious leader, just a sicko animal (such as a pig) looking to justify his filthy wants by claiming it’s okay to commit shameful acts that MY SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST would NEVER condone! So turn away from the teachings of muslims, muhammed and islam for they are false teaching of a mortal man only!
So what they are really saying is we will do as we wish and say it follows our religion sorry but no matter how you turn and scrutinise this it is still wrong and you are child molesters
I am Muslim and there is none of this Satanic behavior in Quran. You are changing the religion to suit your own perverted DESIRES! You are INSANE to promote this!! Babies are pure, leave them pure you wacko!!
Amen to that.
All those believing this evil is acceptable need to REPTENT and turn your lives and hearts over to the REAL Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Being a child molester is an extreme evil because you are abusing children who have no way to defend themselves. Babies are pure and innocent and abusing them sexually takes away that innocence. If your prophet or leader condones this evil practice, that should tell you how wrong your religion is!!!
These people are very, very sick!! May Jesus protect our children from these monsters!
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Poor babies, poor children, poor women …. there is nobody to protect them and their childhood from sick abusive adult men….
I agree with Rushdie. The Quran is nothing but the words of Satan communicated via the so-called profit Muhammad. Your Allah is not the God of Abraham, but Satan in disguise.